The Commissary (base grocery store) here is the smallest one I have ever seen. It is difficult to turn around in this store it's so small. But, are the people who work there are incredibly friendly!
When we moved from Elemendorf AFB to Grand Forks AFB I went into shock, from a lot of different things, but mainly from the size of the Commissary. The difference was immense.
When we were living in Vermont, once in awhile we would drive down to Hanscom AFB to grocery shop and enjoy Boston. The Commissary at Hanscom is huge. I loved it! Here, not so much. But size isn't a big deal for me - it's the availability of products that really matters.
I found that the Commissary here had a fair amount of healthy and organic products, for the size. But, I wanted more. I'm a 'Gimme Jimmy' when it comes to grocery stores. I saw that my store, and I'm quite sure all Commissaries, had these little cards that you could fill out requesting them to carry a certain product. Right away I grabbed one and filled that baby out. I requested that they carry the Rudi's brand whole grain tortillas. I had seen and tried them them while we were visiting Holloman AFB. They were delicious and a product I couldn't find anywhere in my town. I knew asking my Commissary to start carrying these tortillas would be a safe bet - if DECA has already approved Rudi's brand of bread products to be sold, adding another product in the brand line would be simple. And sure enough, it was. My Commissary now carries the tortillas!
Now, let's talk about organic produce. There was a sprinkling - a light sprinkling - in my Commissary. It was rather depressing for a girl coming from Vermont, where everything is organic, to New Mexico where they say: Huh, what's organic?!
So, what did I do? I started asking to talk to the produce manager. I found her and we talked about organic produce and how it all worked. She said she would e-mail me the list of organic produce that would be coming into the store each week.
This was a major score! Now I know ahead of time what organic produce to expect - even how much it will be costing me! She also told me to let her know if I wanted her to look into buying and carrying anything else. So, I did. I asked her about organic potatoes. She looked into it and now.... my Commissary sells organic potatoes on a regular basis. And bananas. That was another thing I asked about.
Proactive is my method. It doesn't always solve the problem all at once, but I strongly believe by the time we leave this base, the Commissary will be geared more towards the healthy eater.
And as we all know, the grocery prices at the Commissary are low, low, low. And the prices they put organic food at follows that same rule. It is cheap to buy organic at the Commissary.
Now, I have a question for you. I want to know how much you tip the bagger. Do you have a method? Or, do you fly by the seat of your pants?
Personally, I go through the self-checkout. This is a sticky point between Daniel and I. He loathes the self-checkout lane while I love it. Not only do I get to bag my groceries just the way I like them, and no one else's germy hands are touching my produce or slamming my tomatoes on the belt, I don't have to tip anyone to bag. This opinion may not sit well with some of you. I just don't like having to tip someone for a job I'd rather do myself, or is free at any other store I shop at.
If I, for some reason, have to go through the checkout lane and a bagger takes care of my groceries, I will tip 2 dollars. Across the board. I'm stingy like that.
Talk to me - what do you do?
*Post from 1 year ago today: "Safety First, People"
When we moved from Elemendorf AFB to Grand Forks AFB I went into shock, from a lot of different things, but mainly from the size of the Commissary. The difference was immense.
When we were living in Vermont, once in awhile we would drive down to Hanscom AFB to grocery shop and enjoy Boston. The Commissary at Hanscom is huge. I loved it! Here, not so much. But size isn't a big deal for me - it's the availability of products that really matters.
I found that the Commissary here had a fair amount of healthy and organic products, for the size. But, I wanted more. I'm a 'Gimme Jimmy' when it comes to grocery stores. I saw that my store, and I'm quite sure all Commissaries, had these little cards that you could fill out requesting them to carry a certain product. Right away I grabbed one and filled that baby out. I requested that they carry the Rudi's brand whole grain tortillas. I had seen and tried them them while we were visiting Holloman AFB. They were delicious and a product I couldn't find anywhere in my town. I knew asking my Commissary to start carrying these tortillas would be a safe bet - if DECA has already approved Rudi's brand of bread products to be sold, adding another product in the brand line would be simple. And sure enough, it was. My Commissary now carries the tortillas!
Now, let's talk about organic produce. There was a sprinkling - a light sprinkling - in my Commissary. It was rather depressing for a girl coming from Vermont, where everything is organic, to New Mexico where they say: Huh, what's organic?!
So, what did I do? I started asking to talk to the produce manager. I found her and we talked about organic produce and how it all worked. She said she would e-mail me the list of organic produce that would be coming into the store each week.
This was a major score! Now I know ahead of time what organic produce to expect - even how much it will be costing me! She also told me to let her know if I wanted her to look into buying and carrying anything else. So, I did. I asked her about organic potatoes. She looked into it and now.... my Commissary sells organic potatoes on a regular basis. And bananas. That was another thing I asked about.
Proactive is my method. It doesn't always solve the problem all at once, but I strongly believe by the time we leave this base, the Commissary will be geared more towards the healthy eater.
And as we all know, the grocery prices at the Commissary are low, low, low. And the prices they put organic food at follows that same rule. It is cheap to buy organic at the Commissary.
Now, I have a question for you. I want to know how much you tip the bagger. Do you have a method? Or, do you fly by the seat of your pants?
Personally, I go through the self-checkout. This is a sticky point between Daniel and I. He loathes the self-checkout lane while I love it. Not only do I get to bag my groceries just the way I like them, and no one else's germy hands are touching my produce or slamming my tomatoes on the belt, I don't have to tip anyone to bag. This opinion may not sit well with some of you. I just don't like having to tip someone for a job I'd rather do myself, or is free at any other store I shop at.
If I, for some reason, have to go through the checkout lane and a bagger takes care of my groceries, I will tip 2 dollars. Across the board. I'm stingy like that.
Talk to me - what do you do?
*Post from 1 year ago today: "Safety First, People"
30 Comments:
Hmmm....I have honestly never heard of someone tipping for having their groceries bagged. So I am no help on that one. I to like using the self check-out, I just think it is a lot quicker. I never really thought about other people's germs on my groceries, but you make a good point...that could be kind of disgusting!!
Good for you for being proactive at the grocery store. I bet a lot of the other women appreciate the extra selection when shopping too :)
I have done the same thing at the commy over here in Germany as well but not only with organic but Gluten free as well. I myself do not have this problem but mother in law does and it seems to be affecting alot more ppl. I was glad that they had no problems with doing it. I also had them start getting Nutro dog food for my dog!!!!
It is lovely that they are willing to help out!!
Typically if I am doing full on grocery shopping I can't go through the self check out because the limit is 45 items. I also am a 2 dollar tipper!!
Hope that you are having a wonderful morning!!
My dad is retired Navy so in my late teens and early 20's I was a dependent and able to go to Hill AFB whenever I got the whim. My dad would always tip $3 and when I would go up on my own I would tip $5. Mind you, I was single and didn't have a family! If I were to hit the commissary nowadays I would most likely slip single bills, not a Lincoln. Now when it comes to being proactive - You so totally rock! I think I might just try the same approach at my local grocery store!
Well I guess I'm stingy too! I also do $2 and that's it. I hate having to tip! We just got self checkout at Patrick AFB (Cocoa Beach, FL) like two months ago, so that has become my BFF!
When were you in AK? We were there from Dec03-jan07.
Anyway, I tip an average of $4, if they are friendly. If they act like they are doing me a favor instead of their JOB that they wanted then I give them $2. I tend to tip the teens more only because I know that they are trying to make their own money, I talk to some of them asking if they like the job and how old they have to be because I know that is were I am sending my boys when they get old enough to work.
I so miss the com. in AK, it was huge compared to the one we have now.
Since the baggers work only for tips I will tip $2 a cart when they load it up. If they are mean and cranky I will only give $1 for it all. I will have to talk to the produce manger. I am there for the ealry bird hours and everyone is friendly at that time before the rush of the day.
From what I've been told, the baggers at the commissary do not get paid by the commissary, so the tip that you give is their "paycheck". I think $2-3 dollars is good, b/c it doesn't take very long to bag and take out groceries. So let's say they bag and take out every 10 minutes (6x an hour), that's a total of $12 or $18 an hour. It's more than an E-3 (my husband) makes an hour. But the amount per hour isn't steady and some days are slow.
Anyway...
I love that you are proactive! Our commisary here carries a nice selection of organic items. Although, I've never seen those cards you were talking about. I'll have to check into that.
I feel you on the small commisary thing. Ours is pretty small too, and selection is very limited. I usually tip $2 for a full load and $1 for smaller. I'm stingy too, but I also don't like the job they do either. I try to use the self checkout as much as possible too.
When they bag and take them out to our car we tip them $2. I think it's great that because you simply asked about organic that they are carrying more of those items. Perhaps I should talk to our manager about getting more of those type items in. Our commissary is small too and I'd like to have more options.
I guess either we are all stingy or all about normal. I usually do $2 too. If I have a TON of stuff (which is rare) I will give $3. And if they just bag and I take them out, I will occasionally put a dollar in the little tip jar.
I learned the hard way at first though. I went shopping by myself a few times right after we were married and never tipped. You normally don't have to and I was too busy thinking about budget and if my husband would like this or that to read the signs that say they only make $ off of tips, not pay. I got some pretty evil looks when I didn't give them anything and so I asked Mike. He set me straight and I felt SO bad!
We don't have a self check out or I would probably use it too. I don't like doing a whole cart though. Something about the guy behind me with just milk and bread breathing down my neck that makes me avoid holding up the line!
Wow! Commissary pricing sounds great. Can I send you my grocery list and $$$ and you buy and send back to me???? Regular stores prices here (CALIF)are outrageous.
Maybe it's just different here (well it is, Northern CA - we're a little wacko), but we don't tip baggers. At least, not as far as I know. They do get paid (and pretty well) because they're part of the unions. The grocery store union...
When I was pregnant with my second and carting a big 2 year old boy around, I started getting them to help me out to my car. I tried tipping them then, but they said it was just part of their job. I was impressed by their honesty - I don't know many teens who would turn away a few dollars being handed to them.
We used to live around the Fort Polk area, and I would tip $5.00, for one I always had alot of stuff and they knew me and my car was always parked a little further away( it`s one of my ticks)and secounds, thats all they get the tip and nothing else. Now we live in Michigan and the Commissary is to far away,so I only go there once a month but I still tip $4.00 to $5.00.
I tip 2 bucks max, unless it's Christmas or I'm feeling extra happy. Often, we only hand over a dollar. I hate tipping, but I hate the self check out more. It always takes twice as long to do it myself, and invariably there is something that didn't scan right or I can't figure out how to add. Plus, with my kids sitting there (or trying to run away), it's just a whole lot easier to go through the check out, bagger or no.
I have to say thanks to all of you who like self checkouts, though; since they put them in, the line for the checkers has gotten a lot shorter!
I'm a self check out girl myself especially when I have Brendan with me!! It's much quicker than waiting on a long line! Good for you on being proactive, maybe I should take a stab at it! I just love your blog by the way!
I have never tipped a grocery bagger. Am I supposed to? I don't shop at a commissary, but it sounds like I would like the prices!
whoa! tip?!?!? i never do that? i don't even think that's ok here!
look at you makin' a difference in the world! i felt that way when i'd suggest books to my old library and they'd order them, then i checked them out first! how exciting for you!
Megan
Whoa. There are self-checkout lanes? I only shop at our commissary once every couple of weeks (my husband is Air Guard not active duty) and I just started doing that recently when I realized how much I could save just by driving the 18 miles to the base. They don't have self-checkout as far as I know.
I try to tip based on the volume of groceries I'm carrying out, when it takes them two carts I'm more likely to tip in the $4-$5 range but usually it's $2-$3.
What really gets me is the fact that I have to remember to carry cash. I'm not a cash carrier, at all so I always end up hitting an ATM and then spending some money in order to have small bills. So maybe I'm not saving as much as I think!
-Oh, and I guess I should introduce myself. I'm Cilla and I linked to your blog from Suzie Sams' blog and have now been reading semi-frequently for a few months. I love it!
I only do self-checkout if I have a few things, but since I shop for two weeks and have the kids with and have always managed to run into problems at the self-checkout LOL I just go through the normal one.
I usually tip about $2 or $3 depending on how much I have.
Luke AFB has a huge commissary, way bigger than the one back at Mountain Home AFB, I like it :)
Depends on how much I have if I will self check out. Also, C has to be on her best behavior to have the priviledge to help self check out. If I am about to lose my sanity, then I let someone bag everything and I always tip $2.00 unless the people are more than helpful then I will add some more to the tip.
We have lots of organics and I love it. Our housing office adds the manager's specials to all the flyers they leave at the house every few weeks.
Amanda
I never use the self-checkout at our commissary because there is always a problem. Produce won't register, it won't read the credit card, some sort of alarm goes off to signal the manager to come and punch some button. I have never NOT had a problem with the self-checkout. So, to the regular lanes I go. I usually just tip $2. I never have all that much food (just me and the hubs for now), and it annoys me every time I have to tip them. I would gladly take my own dang groceries out to the car!! But, I realize they work only for tips, so I don't want to be a jerk. Especially when they are just teens who live on post and need the money.
I do, however, like to know that I am not the only one who is incredibly particular about how my groceries are bagged....
I have been on both sides of the commissary bagging system - I was Active duty military and after we ETS'd, I worked as a bagger. I had some pretty cranky customers, who you could never please no matter how you tried. I personally am very particular about how I like my groceries bagged and how I bagged them for others. They did give us instructions on how to bag, what to bag with what etc. I recieved more in tips then -- (early 1990s) then what you guys are tipping now!! I averaged about $2.00 a cart back then to tip people. And honestly most of the time I averaged about $60 a shift. That was about 6 hours worth of work -- in the frezzing cold or sweltering hot! I had young kids at home that my mom watched a few times a week while I made some pocet change for our family.
Huh? Tip the bagger?
Here's a tip for my grocery bagger: "Don't you EVER put my groceries in to a plastic bag, then put the plastic bag full of stuff in to my reusable bag unless you want my foot in your behind."
I'm like you- I hate having someone else bag my stuff when I'm fully capable of doing it myself. I also LOVE the self check out. Even when it gets me into trouble, lol.
When I have to I tip about $2 too. Maybe $3 if it's an especially HUGE amount I'm buying or if the weather is really horrible out.
That's awesome that they're carrying more healthful foods now at your request! You go girl! :)
I love your passion for healthy eating. I think the steps you are taking to changing your grocery store are awesome. You are my rock star of the week:)
Tip, um, no, don't do that here. Not allowed. But that is because we are paying 14 times what the food originally cost.
Andrea- I don't tip because at our store they ask you not to. I have one sweet old man who almost always catches us and helps us out and I give him one big tip at Christmas. But we don't have a self check out aisle. Publix IS great about carrying anything you request, though. They are always so nice and good to the kids! Free cookies... oh wait, you prob. would frown on that. ;) Maybe you should request they give the kids carrot sticks and organic balloons. I am TOTALLY giving you a hard time. (We are friends now, right, I can give you a hard time?) You pay me back whenever... :)
Well, now i'm not sure if i should feel like a jerk or not, but i never tip when I'm at the commissary. i don't go very often as i'm not actually in the military, but my brother is, and when i'm staying with him I often go. and never once have I actually tipped. i've thought about it, but never done it...
i hate the whole issue of tipping. You never know who to tip and how much and it's just so annoying. It's not that they're not offering a good service, I just don't think it should be up to "personal discretion" how much someone should be getting. I think tipping in general should be done away with and that "tips" should be built into the bill if they want it.
ok now here is one more for you guys: what about when you guys eat out, do you tip then and how much and do you think there is a difference between the two, and what about ALL THE GERMS??
I tip my baggers somewhere between one to four dollars. Only one if it's not that much, or they are being rude. (We have alot of young baggers that can be kind of...lets just say, I'm sure their mothers wouldn't approve.) Four if I have a TON of groceries and they're super friendly. I just think...someday, one of my kids might be bagging. Our self check is only for fifteen items or less. I wish we had it for regular shoppers! I'll have to look into requesting certain items, that'd be great! We live on an annex of Maxwell AFB, and although there's a big commissary 15 minutes away, it'd be great if the little commissary two minutes from my house carried more organic! Our little commissary here is even smaller than the one at Grand Forks (were there 1998-2000).
Well, I'm a little late on this post but oh well :)
The commissaries that we've been to don't have self checkout but you don't have to check the bagger unless they carry it out to your car for you. They do without asking unless you tell them otherwise so we always tell them to just put it back in our cart and we carry it ourselves. I just don't see the point in having to pay someone for bagging and carrying out to my car when I could do it myself.
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